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		<title>By: pat</title>
		<link>http://www.seoish.com/get-over-yourselfs/comment-page-1/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorissa!: Yum, Hello. thanks for commenting.
cmk: Howdy, a great suggestion, if spelling errors get you down is to contact the author. They will usually appreciate it, and it offers a great opportunity to interact with someone in your field.
Also of note: I see all preconceptions the same way. They are poopy. Judging someone by their spelling is poopy, like judging them for over things, like the way they dress or their sex, or their race. Obviously I am taking it to an extreme by saying that...
Or am i?
Hmmm.
In any case, preconceptions: poopylisious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorissa!: Yum, Hello. thanks for commenting.<br />
cmk: Howdy, a great suggestion, if spelling errors get you down is to contact the author. They will usually appreciate it, and it offers a great opportunity to interact with someone in your field.<br />
Also of note: I see all preconceptions the same way. They are poopy. Judging someone by their spelling is poopy, like judging them for over things, like the way they dress or their sex, or their race. Obviously I am taking it to an extreme by saying that&#8230;<br />
Or am i?<br />
Hmmm.<br />
In any case, preconceptions: poopylisious.</p>
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		<title>By: lorisa</title>
		<link>http://www.seoish.com/get-over-yourselfs/comment-page-1/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>lorisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cmk, I think alex was making the point (although I don&#039;t think you caught on) that you made a mistake (misteak?) in your first post; you used &quot;myself&quot; incorrectly.

There are very, very few writers - even the extremely educated ones - who don&#039;t make mistakes from time to time. You (cmk) seem to want to divide writers into two categories: those who make mistakes, and those who don&#039;t. 

In reality, the two categories are: those who make mistakes (and probably know it) and those who make mistakes (and think they don&#039;t make any). 

Great post, Pat! You are absolutely right that SEO, SEM, usability, and any other internet buzzword begins and ends with human beings and how (and whether or not) they understand, enjoy, and talk about what we do. Thanks for the reminder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cmk, I think alex was making the point (although I don&#8217;t think you caught on) that you made a mistake (misteak?) in your first post; you used &#8220;myself&#8221; incorrectly.</p>
<p>There are very, very few writers &#8211; even the extremely educated ones &#8211; who don&#8217;t make mistakes from time to time. You (cmk) seem to want to divide writers into two categories: those who make mistakes, and those who don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>In reality, the two categories are: those who make mistakes (and probably know it) and those who make mistakes (and think they don&#8217;t make any). </p>
<p>Great post, Pat! You are absolutely right that SEO, SEM, usability, and any other internet buzzword begins and ends with human beings and how (and whether or not) they understand, enjoy, and talk about what we do. Thanks for the reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: cmk</title>
		<link>http://www.seoish.com/get-over-yourselfs/comment-page-1/#comment-617</link>
		<dc:creator>cmk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat - I understand your point about the differences in audience perceptions. I hope you didn&#039;t take my comments as a dig at you personally, but rather an open statement about bloggers in general.

Also, I wanted to make the point that I don&#039;t discredit a blogger based on one spelling error. I start to lose faith in bloggers that repeatedly make the same mistakes. Another issue I have with spelling errors is that no one seems to fix them. A post that comes through on my Google Reader with errors almost never gets corrected on the live site. A perfect example of this is a fairly recent Search Engine Journal article where they misuse &quot;steak&quot; for &quot;stake&quot; several times throughout the article, even though they used it correctly in the headline - http://www.searchenginejournal.com/yahoo-myspace-merging-news-corp-wants-yahoo-25-stake/5148/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat &#8211; I understand your point about the differences in audience perceptions. I hope you didn&#8217;t take my comments as a dig at you personally, but rather an open statement about bloggers in general.</p>
<p>Also, I wanted to make the point that I don&#8217;t discredit a blogger based on one spelling error. I start to lose faith in bloggers that repeatedly make the same mistakes. Another issue I have with spelling errors is that no one seems to fix them. A post that comes through on my Google Reader with errors almost never gets corrected on the live site. A perfect example of this is a fairly recent Search Engine Journal article where they misuse &#8220;steak&#8221; for &#8220;stake&#8221; several times throughout the article, even though they used it correctly in the headline &#8211; <a href="http://www.searchenginejournal.com/yahoo-myspace-merging-news-corp-wants-yahoo-25-stake/5148/" rel="nofollow">http://www.searchenginejournal.com/yahoo-myspace-merging-news-corp-wants-yahoo-25-stake/5148/</a></p>
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		<title>By: solid28</title>
		<link>http://www.seoish.com/get-over-yourselfs/comment-page-1/#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator>solid28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Taiwan Girls love foreigners: My Taiwanese friend (girl) reveals how foreigners can get hot chicks in Taiwan!&lt;/strong&gt;

Now Pat, based on your &quot;social network&quot; model of the internet, do you think I will get lots of &quot;networking&quot;, &quot;recommendations&quot;, and rank high in the &quot;list of websites ranked by networks and recommendations?&quot; 


PS. This post inspired me to, from hence forth, create content based on the social network model of the internet. I can&#039;t wait to roll this out.

Thank you,
Evan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Taiwan Girls love foreigners: My Taiwanese friend (girl) reveals how foreigners can get hot chicks in Taiwan!</strong></p>
<p>Now Pat, based on your &#8220;social network&#8221; model of the internet, do you think I will get lots of &#8220;networking&#8221;, &#8220;recommendations&#8221;, and rank high in the &#8220;list of websites ranked by networks and recommendations?&#8221; </p>
<p>PS. This post inspired me to, from hence forth, create content based on the social network model of the internet. I can&#8217;t wait to roll this out.</p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
Evan</p>
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		<title>By: solid28</title>
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		<dc:creator>solid28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex/Cmk: I think the one of the points of his article is that most net users are not like you guys (experts), or me (graduate from college in physics and now attending a Chinese language institute).

Cmk: I agree that lack of attention to detail (spelling mistakes) is correlated with research prior to writing articles. But it isn&#039;t causal. Discarding an established person&#039;s credibility based solely upon spelling, complaining about it etc, is pretty close minded.

Regarding your critique of &quot;it&#039;s&quot; and &quot;too,to&quot;, when was the last time you were confused by their improper usage? Thankfully context almost always clears it up. If you had said non-natives english speakers might be confused by his sloppy use of homonyms, I fully agree. But otherwise, its quite pedantic and ivory tower like to get so worked up over it.

I trt to follow truth wherever it leads...even if it leads to a poorly spelt blog that constantly talks about farts and poop. LOL! He helps me be less stuck up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex/Cmk: I think the one of the points of his article is that most net users are not like you guys (experts), or me (graduate from college in physics and now attending a Chinese language institute).</p>
<p>Cmk: I agree that lack of attention to detail (spelling mistakes) is correlated with research prior to writing articles. But it isn&#8217;t causal. Discarding an established person&#8217;s credibility based solely upon spelling, complaining about it etc, is pretty close minded.</p>
<p>Regarding your critique of &#8220;it&#8217;s&#8221; and &#8220;too,to&#8221;, when was the last time you were confused by their improper usage? Thankfully context almost always clears it up. If you had said non-natives english speakers might be confused by his sloppy use of homonyms, I fully agree. But otherwise, its quite pedantic and ivory tower like to get so worked up over it.</p>
<p>I trt to follow truth wherever it leads&#8230;even if it leads to a poorly spelt blog that constantly talks about farts and poop. LOL! He helps me be less stuck up.</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CMK, thanks for the reply and clarification.
I do think many people share your opinion that writing mistakes are a barrier, but the point I was trying to make (perhaps lamely, I am often often lame) is that many people do not share that opinion, and those &quot;people&quot; are often those who are unfamiliar with a subject, or easy sales (the people we want at our sites)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CMK, thanks for the reply and clarification.<br />
I do think many people share your opinion that writing mistakes are a barrier, but the point I was trying to make (perhaps lamely, I am often often lame) is that many people do not share that opinion, and those &#8220;people&#8221; are often those who are unfamiliar with a subject, or easy sales (the people we want at our sites)</p>
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		<title>By: cmk</title>
		<link>http://www.seoish.com/get-over-yourselfs/comment-page-1/#comment-608</link>
		<dc:creator>cmk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all Alex, I&#039;m a woman. I also can&#039;t figure out what connection you&#039;re trying to make between &quot;chatting up some babe&quot; and spending time on formulating a message.

As for Pat - you see writing and communication as two separate things. I see writing mistakes as a barrier to communication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all Alex, I&#8217;m a woman. I also can&#8217;t figure out what connection you&#8217;re trying to make between &#8220;chatting up some babe&#8221; and spending time on formulating a message.</p>
<p>As for Pat &#8211; you see writing and communication as two separate things. I see writing mistakes as a barrier to communication.</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
		<link>http://www.seoish.com/get-over-yourselfs/comment-page-1/#comment-590</link>
		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 05:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geesh, this is getting all fancy. 
I like beer. 
It has bubbles in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geesh, this is getting all fancy.<br />
I like beer.<br />
It has bubbles in it.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 04:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Some readers (including myself) may think if you arenâ€™t proofreading your posts carefully enough 

Myself may think that *you&#039;re* violating concordance.

&gt; to catch these simple mistakes, perhaps you arenâ€™t fully researching what youâ€™re writing or 
&gt; checking your sources.

I think that perhaps you aren&#039;t fully researching what you&#039;re . . . checking your sources, either. Eh? For starters, you might try Strunk and White&#039;s, where you would see that this construction is ambiguous and stylistically poor.

Myself really thinks that some people aren&#039;t getting laid. Maybe instead of reading S&amp;W tonight, cmk, you should chat up some babe. This is not meant as a dig, but simply to highlight an inherent opportunity cost; the more time one spends on the form of one&#039;s message, the less one can spend on the content. And I think Pat&#039;s (brilliant) point here is, &quot;what do people really value? Form, or function?&quot;

P.S. Yes, it&#039;s Saturday night. I see the irony. My weak excuse is that my girlfriend out of town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Some readers (including myself) may think if you arenâ€™t proofreading your posts carefully enough </p>
<p>Myself may think that *you&#8217;re* violating concordance.</p>
<p>&gt; to catch these simple mistakes, perhaps you arenâ€™t fully researching what youâ€™re writing or<br />
&gt; checking your sources.</p>
<p>I think that perhaps you aren&#8217;t fully researching what you&#8217;re . . . checking your sources, either. Eh? For starters, you might try Strunk and White&#8217;s, where you would see that this construction is ambiguous and stylistically poor.</p>
<p>Myself really thinks that some people aren&#8217;t getting laid. Maybe instead of reading S&amp;W tonight, cmk, you should chat up some babe. This is not meant as a dig, but simply to highlight an inherent opportunity cost; the more time one spends on the form of one&#8217;s message, the less one can spend on the content. And I think Pat&#8217;s (brilliant) point here is, &#8220;what do people really value? Form, or function?&#8221;</p>
<p>P.S. Yes, it&#8217;s Saturday night. I see the irony. My weak excuse is that my girlfriend out of town.</p>
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		<title>By: SEOish: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.seoish.com/get-over-yourselfs/comment-page-1/#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>SEOish: Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 00:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apples and Oranges, cmk, you speak of writing.
I speak of communication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apples and Oranges, cmk, you speak of writing.<br />
I speak of communication.</p>
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